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MaxOut - 08:50am Jul 2, 2001 PST(#264 of 1770)
Worlds worst excuse: "But we've always done it that way."

Believe it or not, I (the most infrequent poster on MN) actually have something to say about this.

I understand what Dave is saying and I think Fran said most of it best. Being one of those that have been here for a long time (since before the SL) I've seen the change that has come over MN. I think what Dave was originally commenting about isn't really clique-ish as much as simply that certain people have developed both personal and internet friendships through MN. Along with those friendships comes inside comments, jokes, etc. When those inside "things" get included in posts, they can make people on the outside feel, well outside. I've seen this grow a lot over the last year, and I simply skip stuff I don't "get" (which for me is a lot).

I think that a lot of people here don't understand the difference between message boards and chat rooms. We don't have chat rooms at MN (unfortunately) and so a lot of our message boards become "chatty" which for a less frequent visitor (like myself) can seem a little hard to follow and make you feel left out because you "missed all the fun".

Personally, I do wish that more people would use chat rooms, especially when the chatting gets less group oriented, and keep MN more message board oriented.

realizing, I've just spoke more in this post than the entire last 6 months, passes soapbox to next person in line

laura - 09:00am Jul 2, 2001 PST(#265 of 1770)
"Another thing, then, is the American "nature," according to Licka: "This is a disaster [for the Czechs]. They are very ambitious, very self-confident and what's more, they've actually learned how to play football."

Makes sense Maxout. I just want to point out tho, that some folders, loke JB and the Kitchen, really are our 'chat rooms' since we don't have any like u said. i mean, we dont really go to the kitchen to talk about food, we go there to say hello and talk about our day and whatnot. Other folders tho, have a purpose, and sometimes, yes, we do tend to drift and chat there too.

so I guess, yes, we should try to keep chatting mainly to the chat folders, and more importantly, as dave said, all be consious of everyone in a folder while we're there.

I hate to think anyone feels left out, and if i personally ever made anyone feel like that, I apologize!

Shelly Dee - 03:02pm Jul 2, 2001 PST(#266 of 1770)
Your value has nothing to do with your valuables.

I find that I am in agreement with Dave, Fran, Max and *gasp* Erin ;).

I don't know if this will make sense but, back when the SL first got started it was used more as a message board, you didn't have to be here at the same time as someone else, you could 'leave a message' and when that person came on they would 'leave a message' back and it was easier to keep up, now it is more like a chat room where if you aren't able to be here when everyone else is, at 'peak' time, you get left behind.

ember99 - 03:18pm Jul 2, 2001 PST(#267 of 1770)

I understand totally about feeling left out. I was kinda new here quite a while back and I decided to try and chat in a folder. I believe it was JB1. the people who were in here were flirting to a point that I felt VERY uncomfortable and I was very much ignored. I erased my posts and it took me a long time before I was felt like posting again even though I never quit lurking.

If you ask me, I think people have been a lot more friendly and tend to acknowledge or try to acknowledge everyone a lot more now than before.

White Tornado - 04:19am Jul 3, 2001 PST(#268 of 1770)
(8@D)======> The WINDS of change are inevitable...but is the Power of Love......TORNADO WARNING: Some people are sheltered,,,,,, and then,,,,,, I unshelter them

The term may better be suited as.....Clickish.

There is just so many places to go in MN. Of late my time has been reduced by summer activities and singing on the Net.
I have my subs conveniently divided into CHATS....and GAMES.
I have had precious few days to visit the CHATS which this folder is a part. June 19th, post #619 last visit.....and quick Kitchen check 3225+ new posts. Last time over 5000 new posts.
I make a point to get to the GAMES. For one because many times I am hosting a puzzle/s and have response~ibilities to tend to. For another if I miss one puzzle I can get right into the next and still be active.

I don't know where anyone finds the time to be following every teaser, every P&S or P&V or be in every MP. More power to them.

As for me, of course there are times I feel like an outsider. Just as I do at Paltalk where I visit so many of the singing rooms I stretch myself thin on getting to know the regs more closely in each individual room but open myself to some awesome sounds and personalities by spreading out.

And how often. And one must accept the terms of those choices. Esp when one of those choices is RECENT.

I think if you look close when I notice a new name I try to welcome them or when I see an old one as Ember above I embrace the return of their presence for howev long or brief. But in the end it lies with me how much time I spend @ MN and how much power I put into my CLICKS.

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