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Charles Dickens (1812-1870)

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P Marlowe - 10:38am Mar 2, 1999 PST(#2 of 28)
Glenview 7537 - Hollywood

I agree that Dickens' books hold elements of great mystery, but so does the human condition and that is what interested Dickens the most. After all, A Christmas Carole is a ghost story. Great Expectations is one of his very best and Mrs. Haversham is a character who has been copied over and over again if you think about it. The moors were also very mysterious during Dickens' time.

Brigid O'Shaugnessy - 10:42am Mar 2, 1999 PST(#3 of 28)

Did Dickens write about the moors? I thought he was a big fan of the fens. (Sorry.)

All I know is that even though it's been years since I read it, thinking about "Tale of Two Cities" makes me get misty-eyed.

Danny Brown - 10:13am Mar 11, 1999 PST(#4 of 28)

what is your favorite book by charlie dickins

Brigid O'Shaugnessy - 01:03pm Mar 16, 1999 PST(#5 of 28)

Hmmm... hard to say. "David Copperfield" is what I first read by Dickens so I have a great fondness for it. "Pickwick Papers" is always fun, and it has great food descriptions. I think overall, "Great Expectations" is my favorite, though the ending is a cop-out. "Our Mutual Friend" is really fun in a demented, soap-opera way.

P Marlowe - 11:36am Mar 21, 1999 PST(#6 of 28)
Glenview 7537 - Hollywood

Brigid, thought the moors was where Pip met escaped prisioner (Mudwick??)? Great Expectations.

David Matthews - 03:07pm Mar 21, 1999 PST(#7 of 28)

P Marlowe.


P Marlowe - 10:28pm Mar 22, 1999 PST(#8 of 28)
Glenview 7537 - Hollywood

Thank you, David, knew I'd messed that up. It's been years since I've read that book, but Mrs. Havesham (or is it Haversham?) is a most unforgetable character too. But then I am speaking about the quintessential creator of the English Character in Fiction, aren't I?

David Matthews - 10:36am Mar 24, 1999 PST(#9 of 28)

P Marlowe.

I don't know if you've seen the latest version of "Great Expectations". Usually I don't like modernizations of the classics but I thought this wasn't too bad, mainly because of the New York settings and Gwyneth Paltrow. It doesn't have the dramatic climax of the classic British version with John Mills and Jean Simmons, but surprisingly the finish of the modern version is truer to the book. (I cheated and looked it up on books on-line).

Brigid O'Shaugnessy - 03:38pm Apr 8, 1999 PST(#10 of 28)

P. Marlowe--

I'm going to have to look at the book again, but I could've sworn Great Expectations had marshy, swampy fens... I agree with you that Miss Havisham is one of the most fabulous creations, ever. Dickens had a way with characters and characters' names (remember Uriah Heep?) that is unparalleled. Too bad he was such a wordy little sucker (there's an easy 6,000 words that could be shaved out of Our Mutual Friend) but he's such a great, old-fashioned NOVELIST, it's always a pleasure to read him.

Shamefully enough, I've never read "The Mystery of Edwin Drood," although I keep meaning to do so...

I saw the latest adaptation of Great Expectations and cannot describe my rampant hatred of that movie. NO dialogue, no script, loud music in the place of any plot development... although the ending of the movie was true to the book, I agree with that. And you could've thrown a rock out a window and hit two people with more acting ability than Gwyneth Paltrow (who I think is usually a pretty good actress) and Ethan Hawke in that film. UGH.

David Matthews - 10:56pm Apr 8, 1999 PST(#11 of 28)


I get a slight impression that you didn't care very much for the latest version of "Great Expectations". Now I have to say that it hasn't lingered in my mind too much but I found it passed a couple of hours harmessly enough.(Now that's a wishy washy endorsement for you).

You're right the original novel was set partly in the Kentish marshes.

Brigid O'Shaugnessy - 11:47am Apr 9, 1999 PST(#12 of 28)

Darn! I hate that I'm so easy to read ;) I did think that Anne Bancroft was great as Miss Havisham, tho.

My problem with the movie is that the whole inability to cross societal boundaries which is so pivotal in Great Expectations was really poorly translated in the movie. Oh yeah, and hating the acting, the direction, the choppy film editing...

I don't know if I've seen the original GE movie. Who's in it?

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